Deathly Hollows

[cutthroatpixie]

I totally loved it, despite the fact that it was kind of on a little bit of crack. Haha.

1. Snape, I love you. Seriously. The whole time I was reading the book, I was hoping everything about him being good, Dumbledore telling him he needed to kill him, etc, was true, and it was and yay. His memories were sad, though. I mean, people in fandom have been saying Snape lurved Lily for years, but his obsession, and friendship, and love for her were rather sad. She was probably his only real friend, poor bloke. I could go on for days. I love Snape because I am way biased. =P

2. I didn't like how Ron mimicked Harry and used Parseltongue. I just don't think it would actually be possible. Hannah, Emily, and I were talking, and it doesn't seem like one of those languages you can learn, you just know it, or else more people would know it (it would be a great language for dark wizards and such to use). It's a fantasy book, so all the stuff about snake noises and human noises being totally different, making it damn near impossible for Ron to actually imitate Harry accurately, can probably be ignored. But still. Didn't like it.

3. Oooh Sirius, how could they take you like thiiiiiiiiiiiis? Haha. That has nothing to do with anything. Anywhore, I loved the scene with Lily, James, Sirius, Remus, and Harry. It was beautiful, them all being together, even though it wasn't for long, and all but Harry were dead. I just really liked it.

4. MOLLY TOTALLY PWNED BELLATRIX! With her "NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU BITCH!" and then BAM, Bellatrix is DEAD. The scene was just great, even though I've been hoping Neville would have been the one to finish her off. He got Nagini good, though. Because he just rocks like that.

5. AS/S. Haha. And ASP. I actually noticed that first. Oi. I was all, "Albus Severus Potter... ASP... lol a snake." Scorpius is a ridiculous name, though. Draco and his lady wife must be on the drugs, I think. Haha.

There were a lot of other things I liked/didn't like (there are more likes), buuuuuut, I got sick of making a list. Haha. Open discussion, people! Oh, and if anyone else made a post about their take on Deathly Hollows, link me, and I'll read it. Haven't read my flist in awhile, and I don't want to miss anything. =)

Comments

[ethesis.livejournal.com]

I wanted an epilog where Snape was teaching Defense against the Dark Arts, where the Twins were the richest wizards in the world, and where Lupin and Tonks had gone on as the most famous aurors in history.

Sigh.

[cutthroatpixie.livejournal.com]

Yeah, that would have been a better ending than the, "Lol all married with chillins" one. And Fred and Snape and Remus and Tonks all died. D: Death is to be expected, but it was very sad.

[lady-sioned.livejournal.com]

I didn't like how everyone's ending ended with OMG SO MANY KIDSSSSS because no, children aren't everyone's happy ending. AND URGH. FRED! We got more remorse for Dobby's death then we did for FRED'S. >.

[xcheshire--catx.livejournal.com]

I suppose it was because there was more time for remorse in Dobby's case, seeing as they weren't in the middle of a plot-deciding battle when he was killed.

Chilluns arent everyone's happy ending, no.
But they are if you're a Weasley ;]
and if you're in a kids book, yaknow.

[cutthroatpixie.livejournal.com]

I really need to get more HP-related icons, this is the only one I have right now.

Anyway, yeah. Dobby's death had time to be mourned, Fred's didn't. We had Percy going off after the guy who killed him, though, and that was a pretty powerful scene, especially since Percy has been so distant from his family in all these books. It really showed that he really does care about them, no matter what he's been doing that seems to contradict that. And we got that little scene with Molly sobbing and the whole family around Fred's body-- that just wasn't the main focus at that point in the book, though, so we didn't get an in-depth look at the mourning that was obviously going on.

[cutthroatpixie.livejournal.com]

I know, and the epilogue was just focused on the omgchillins. I kind of wanted to see more of the aftermath of the battle-- the clean up and such, and get a little more info on what characters other than Harry, Ron, and Hermione were up to. But oh well. The book was really good, the epilogue was just somewhat lacking and not my cup of tea.

[haro.livejournal.com]

It's because Dobby was a pure innocent. He didn't go into battle knowing he could die. He only wanted to help Harry. Also, as the below comment said- Fred died in the middle of battle. There wasn't time for gratuitous anguish. Same with Remus and Tonks.

Also children aren't my idea of a happy ending (don't want them), but they're a happy ending for these characters and that's all that matters. Because it's happy for them, I'm happy.

More importantly the series is in a huge part about love for family. It's what saved so many characters. And it's only appropriate that the flash forward with the characters involves that and those characters passing on that love to their own.

[ethesis.livejournal.com]

Nicely put, that love for family, and parents for children, being a core of the novels. That theme reprises in the nineteen years later very well.

Still, the way she killed people off in passing and left various things hanging (Harry is a kid's godfather, but the kid lives where? that he comes to visit four days a week ...) ... sigh ... it was almost as if she was trying to block fanfics or pressure to write any more in the same setting.

Ah well, it was a good ride and a solid last book -- it doesn't ruin the movies or the other stories. Sad that everyone in James & Lily's circle died, the good, the bad and the ugly.

Also sharp that Voldy did not realize that he was facing a final death at the last duel, that he didn't know all of his souls had been freed except the one in his body, and that Harry didn't try to use that to soften him up.

Nicely done, nicely done.

[haro.livejournal.com]

Yeah, exactly. I mean even Narcissa's love for her son in a sense saved Harry. Wow.

I thought the kid lived with Andromeda? When Tonks arrives at Hogwarts she mentions the kid will be safe with her, and even seems to imply for a longer period of time in case she (Tonks) and Lupin die. Neville grew up with his grandma, so it's not something we haven't seen in the HP-verse. ^^

Oh I dunno about the killing people in passing. One thing to remember is that the books are from Harry's perspective. If he didn't see it happen, we don't know how/why it happened (unless it's explained). There are only two or three exceptions to this- all scenes which involve the Death Eaters (i.e. Spinner's end) and one other- Harry being dropped off at Privet Drive as a baby. Some of those Harry actually did see via his mind connection to Moldy Voldy. Lots of people were inevitably going to die, so it makes sense that Harry didn't see them all. I think Lupin and Tonks in specific were meant to elicit kind of a hollow shock, which really set him forward on his mission.

I LOVED how Harry kept calling him Tom. That was AWESOMESAUCE.

[xcheshire--catx.livejournal.com]

Harry is a kid's godfather, but the kid lives where? that he comes to visit four days a week ...

at the time of the epilogue, Teddy was of age (he would be 19-ish), so he would probably have been out on his own by then, my guess is he lived with Andromeda while he was in school (and maybe still does)

[haro.livejournal.com]

2- Oh I disagree. It's just one word, not a whole bunch. Ron's heard Harry say it more than once. One thing to remember is Voldemort's mindset, which is stressed many times as being that of underestimating people. Only dark Wizards supposedly know Parseltongue, so even if someone overheard the word and didn't speak Parseltongue, they're probably one too.

[cutthroatpixie.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I guess that makes sense. I just think that if it were as simple as hearing the words more than once and mimicking them, it would be easier for more people to learn the language, and that doesn't seem to be the case. *shrug* It's not a big thing, I just found I didn't like it is all.

[haro.livejournal.com]

Had it been several statements I would have WTFed. I think it mentioned him having to say it more than once.

I did pull this from wiki. Lol. I didn't remember it.

Albus Dumbledore seems to be able to understand Parseltongue in one instance in Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, when he repeats Morfin Gaunt's words "the big house over the way", which were spoken in Parseltongue. It is unlikely to have been Morfin who did so: Dumbledore claims that, "apparently, ["He'll kill me for losing his ring"] was all he ever said again."

Ron Weasley uses Parseltongue in the final book to reopen the Chamber of Secrets, but only through persistently trying to mimic the sounds Harry made. This, along with Dumbledore's comprehension of Parseltongue indicates that the language may not necessarily be a magical trait, but can be a learned art, although it is possible that Dumbledore had seen the memories previouly with a parslemouth.

[cutthroatpixie.livejournal.com]

Haha, yeah, there would have been more than some passing dislike if he had been spouting off entire sentences. I would have had to do some facepalming in that case.

I didn't remember that either, thanks for showing. =)

[harrywells.livejournal.com]

I thought it was actually pretty cool that Ron spoke Parseltongue :P
The epilogue was so lame, though. Okay, I'm glad they got it awwwwn and had kids and everything and that they're now going to Hogwarts, which I figured would be the case before I even turned the page to read the epilogue, but... um. What about the OTHER characters? How about glimpses of what happened in those 19 years? Like their weddings? Birth of their children? What about Fleur and Bill? George? I wish one of their kids ended up a squib. That would have been hilarious.
But yeah. I want to see what happened with Neville and McGonangall and who is the headmaster and MOM and THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THAN JUST THE TRIO AND DRACO, ROWLING! *angry face*

[la-belle-roo.livejournal.com]

Neville became the Herbology Professor. They mentioned that.

[harrywells.livejournal.com]

Yeah, which I love. But there's so many characters in that world, you can't just talk about a handful of them at the end and neglect the rest.

[la-belle-roo.livejournal.com]

She had tons of characters in the book, so it's hard to fault her for only talking about the known to be popular ones at the end. Admittedly, while it would have been awesome for her to detail what happened to everyone, the ones she did highlight were the real main characters.

[cutthroatpixie.livejournal.com]

Seriously. Victoire is Bill and Fleur's daughter I think, but they weren't actually mentioned at all. How'd they get everything cleaned up? How long did it take to gather up all Voldemort's supporters so the war really was over? Taking him out is a HUGE blow to their regime, but there are loads of Deather Eaters and their supporters. It would have taken awhile to get the Ministry back in order, repair the ministry, gather all the bodies and bury them, etc. I wanted to see SOME of that, you know?

And I want to know who married Draco when he is so OBVIOUSLY a queerface. =P

[harrywells.livejournal.com]

Yeah, that does sound like something they'd name their kid.
Yes, exactly. It's like "oh lol btw voldy is ded & here is harry & co 19 years later kthxbye." Um... but what happened AFTER Voldemort died and isn't two decades later? I want to knowwwww. She could have done a longer Epilogue, even if it were just short glimpses into everyone's lives. I really don't think anyone would complain. Especially after that epilogue reads like total fanfiction. wtf? I think, after all everyone in that book has been through, it's a little unfair to shortchange semi-main characters just because they aren't the main characters. People have grown to love them, I want to know what fucking happened. Did Neville get married? Does he have any kids? What does he do other than being a professor? When did Ron and Hermione finally ADMITTEDLY get together? Is McGonagall still alive? And I love Seamus, what about him? How did George cope with the loss of his twin? What sort of Muggle things is Mr. Weasley getting into trouble with now? etc etc etc.
re: Draco: I know! I keep wondering who the hell he married. And back to your post, Scorpius is a hugely stupid name. My theory is Draco's a total fag and just adopted him. Maybe.

[haro.livejournal.com]

Remember that last time Voldemort disappeared, the death eaters ceased being dangerous because they were in Azkaban/hiding/or too cowardly to act. I don't see that it would be different this time. The Death Eaters aren't too much of a threat without Voldemort himself there. They chased them down and put them in Azkaban, I imagine. I mean with Kingsley in charge, who is like the badass Samuel L Jackson of Wizards, I'm sure it didn't take too long.

I wish we could have at least seen what was up with George and Luna. I think seeing those two would have made it just even more perfect than perfect for me. However, I'm sure someone will ask in an interview and she'll spill.

[sugarbugevans.livejournal.com]

fred. D:

[cutthroatpixie.livejournal.com]

I know D: Forge must be so lonely without his Gred. *huggles them* *yes, even the dead Fred*

[cutthroatpixie.livejournal.com]

AS/S has a ship name now. HMS ASS. Haha. XD

[xcheshire--catx.livejournal.com]

Dont be silly Mac, of course Scorpius is a ridiculous name, Pansy named him.

[cutthroatpixie.livejournal.com]

His LADY WIFE, Emily. That is what I am calling her now. Lol. But it was so totally Pansy. XD

[lilymionepotter.livejournal.com]

Lmao! I love all of these responses. I don't feel like replying to everything I want to, but I will do a rundown.

Loved Snape, loved Snap loving Lily, admittedly I wanted more of an epilogue, but I thought it was cute, RIP! to all the awesomesauce characters, and lmao to Scorpius and Draco's receding hairline.